So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). If CGtrader's advertisement budget is a problem, a Crowdfunding round may help. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. 5. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. I did not know about that. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. Better for who? After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. I like how there is no join up fee. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. Just my fifty cents. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. Dear adentonclark, Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. my main income its still TS. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. CG Trader. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. Money rules! TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. What would be your opinion? Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. Hello. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. I left all but . Yep.. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. Animated Lion 3D Model 14. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file". Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). [http://www.google.com|google11] Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. Change Method. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. 3dsky.org2. TS has more sales because : I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. :). I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. They customize those figures anyway you want. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. There are currently no models in your cart. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: Here it is quite seamless and elegant. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. Care to share your time machine? It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) taken offline. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! No matter what the Wisdoms offer you now, they will make you pay x10 later once they are done with their competitors (again). The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. Hi there, just want to ask about the artstation store, do they have a condition of not selling on other store? I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. I like, CG Trader is ascent. Cubebrush. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. I'm not sure about your analysis. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real.
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